[Teaching_Composition] Critical vs Radical

Thelin,William teaching_composition@mailman.eppg.com
Thu, 5 Oct 2006 10:05:49 -0400


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I'm out sick, so I don't have access to my files, but when I return to =
the office, I will try to supply you the citations where Hairston is, =
indeed, imho, condescending to students.  Why compositionists have =
deified her is beyond me.  She spread anecdotes as truth and never =
supported her assertions with research.  Instead of wrangling with the =
complexities brought to us by postmodernism, critical pedagogy, etc., =
she dismissed them, claiming that her opponents did not know how to =
write clear prose.
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Gee, Irv.  It seems we battle over this at least once a year, eh?  :)  I =
hope all is well with you
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Bill

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From: teaching_composition-admin@mailman.eppg.com on behalf of Irvin =
Peckham
Sent: Thu 10/5/2006 8:49 AM
To: teaching_composition@mailman.eppg.com
Subject: RE: [Teaching_Composition] Critical vs Radical



Thank you, Kathy.
That's how I remember reading the article.

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From: teaching_composition-admin@mailman.eppg.com
[mailto:teaching_composition-admin@mailman.eppg.com] On Behalf Of Kathy
Fitch
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 4:32 PM
To: teaching_composition@mailman.eppg.com
Subject: RE: [Teaching_Composition] Critical vs Radical

<<I didn't read her saying that students were incapable of dealing with
political realities.  Republicans, maybe, but not all young people.>>

Okay, this almost made my laugh my afternoon coffee right onto the =
keyboard.
Seems spot on, though--Hairston's was less a "you can't handle The =
Truth!"
stance than a "Teacher's version of Truth shouldn't drown out the =
marvelous
diversity of truths students bring, from which everyone in the room =
might
learn much" stance.  It's a generous, appreciative view of students, not =
a
dismissive one.


Kathy

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