[Teaching_Composition] NEW MODULE
Glenn Blalock
teaching_composition@mailman.eppg.com
Tue, 6 Dec 2005 13:44:33 -0600
Irv,
I won't speak for the wiki version Jeff's describing. But you could
download wiki software from a number of different places, depending on which
wiki you wanted (there are many flavors of wiki, each using variations on
basic wiki markup and with different extra features). I can confirm what
Jeff says about ease of installation, though.
Some considerations for you. Wikis will operate on various server operating
systems (Linux, Windows, etc.), so as you shop, keep that in mind. Some
wikis need a database connection (such as MySQL; others don't (the one we
use, for instance, needs no database).
You can learn about and download PmWiki (the one we use at TAMU-CC and for
CompFAQs) at http://www.pmwiki.org.
One advantage we find to using PmWiki is that Pm (Patrick Michaud, the wiki
developer) is very accessible via email to help with installation and other
issues.
Glenn
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[mailto:teaching_composition-admin@mailman.eppg.com] On Behalf Of Irvin
Peckham
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 1:31 PM
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Subject: RE: [Teaching_Composition] NEW MODULE
Where's the best place to download from?
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Irvin Peckham
Director of University Writing Program
Louisiana State University
ipeckh1@lsu.edu
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Length of time depends on the knowledge you bring with you to any task
(fixing a car, writing an essay, painting the wall, etc.).
So for installing a wiki system - whatever flavor it is since there are so
many *kinds* of wikis - how much time it takes depends on the system's setup
but it also depends on the person doing the work.
It takes *me* a few minutes.
Download the file
Upload the file to the server
Unpack the file
Make a database
Fill in the slots of the GUI interface for the wiki (which ask you where
your database is located, your password, etc).
Click "install."
That's it.
If you don't know how to download, upload, unpack etc. it will probably take
you longer since you will first have to familiarize yourself with these
actions.
Jeff
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>Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 09:50:55 -0500
>From: "Banks, Paul" <Paul_Banks@mcgraw-hill.com>
>Subject: RE: [Teaching_Composition] NEW MODULE
>To: <teaching_composition@mailman.eppg.com>
>
>This is an interesting topic in that we are currently
considering new
>directions in which to take the TeachingComp list, and one
them is
>possibly to host a wiki. I have created one at the link below
as a
>working prototype using jot.com (a third party host).
>
>Irv, it took me about 1.5 hours to create this, but using a
point and
>click interface put together by a commercial host. I'd
estimate that
>doing this "by hand" using native tools would have been
several days
>work. There is also hosting to worry about if you aren't going to
>purchase managed hosting.
>
>You will notice in "Jot" that you have a choice of creating
pages using
>WYSIWYG text area replacement (word processor-like)
in-browser tools,
>traditional wiki scripting, or even as xml. Nice... Jot is
actually much
>more than just a wiki.
>
>https://teachingcomp.jot.com/WikiHome
>
>Paul R. Banks
>Sr. Media Development and Special Projects Editor English and Related
>Disciplines McGraw-Hill Higher Education Two Penn Plaza, 20th Floor New
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>[mailto:teaching_composition-admin@mailman.eppg.com] On
Behalf Of Irvin
>Peckham
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>Subject: RE: [Teaching_Composition] NEW MODULE
>
>
>I looked into constructing a wiki about a year ago & I saw
that it would
>take several days of work--and I'm reasonably adept at
web-page writing.
>Is wiki-constructing getting easier?
>
>
>=========================
>Irvin Peckham
>Director of University Writing Program
>Louisiana State University
>ipeckh1@lsu.edu
>
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Behalf Of J.Rice
>Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 4:55 PM
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>Subject: Re: [Teaching_Composition] NEW MODULE
>
>What I see the wiki doing is allowing everyone to write to
the same
>space, tolink to each other, to link outside of the space, to
>collaborate in an open space, to edit, etc. I don't want to
limit the
>possibilities b/c frankly, they're still out there for us to
create. But
>we have a dynamic space here, one that changes how we view
our writing
>and its relationships to other writings. I'm hoping our work
in this
>space will give us new ideas about wikis and writing in
addition to the
>ones already in circulation. It can be a site to host shared
material as
>you suggest (something I've tried with GTAs in a drupal site
I set up)
>or something else entirely.
>
>Bradley Dilger at WIU is using a wiki in his computers and
writing
>course where students are building a glossolalia
>http://faculty.wiu.edu/CB-Dilger/f05/480/
>and the wiki at:
>http://wrecking.org/glossolalia/index.php?title=Main_Page
>
>
>The other wiki I run is the DetroitWiki
>http://englishweb.clas.wayne.edu/~jrice/wiki/detroitwiki
>
>and the purpose there is to eventually build this alternative
space on
>Detroit. It's not an encyclopedia (the proposed Wikipedia
model) but a
>choral space (in an Ulmer way) or an open electronic text (in
an Ong
>sense).
>
>I.e. it's an assemblage of references, ideas, images quotes,
writings,
>associations, links, etc. for all to build.
>
>Jeff
>
>
>---- Original message ----
>>Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 19:31:04 -0500
>>From: Linda Adler-Kassner <Linda.Adler-Kassner@emich.edu>
>>Subject: Re: [Teaching_Composition] NEW MODULE
>>To: teaching_composition@mailman.eppg.com
>>
>>I've been thinking about using a wiki in a grad class I'm
>teaching next
>>semester on basic writing theory and practice - having
>students develop
>>(plant?) initial pages on BW subjects. Looking at the
>resources here
>>and thinking about Jeff's post, though, I'm also thinking
>about how to
>>use it for our FYWP, as well. Right now we have a huge amount of
>>resource material of all kinds on our web site (some html, some
>>pdfs...). Would a wiki serve as a hosting place for some of
>this, I
>>wonder? I checked out the Wayne State site... Jeff, can you
>talk a bit
>>about what you see happening there? Tim, what kinds of things
>do you do
>>with wikis at MN (if you do)? This is really intriguing! -Linda
>>
>>----
>>Linda Adler-Kassner, Ph.D.
>>Director of First-Year Writing
>>Associate Professor
>>Department of English Language and Literature Eastern Michigan
>>University
>>612 Pray-Harrold
>>Ypsilanti, MI 48197
>>734.487.0148 (o) 734.483.9744 (fax)
>>http://www.emich.edu/english/fycomp/
>>
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